Solid session there boys. Gotta ask - why trackpoints?

Just like to keep it on a level playing field Chris.

Not that it should worry you Swan units..

I was thinkin' of you when I was having the time of my life on the Manta 49 though,

and did she love the Maui finco SL28 - not super fast..but turned like a wave board on acid... and slipped over some crazy pyramids like butter

Anyways you Swannies are welcome to try "t" points for the A cup... if it slows us down on givin' you a major woopin

Good to see the captain of track Pt Crew post doppler today - leading by example.

I too ask why?

Either way - no sport will let you pick the eyeballs out of two results and post like "we do" with an alpha "tracky" and the rest in "dop".

The rules don't state that you have to supply Doppler? Maybe they need to be changed for all of us that have posted over a set criteria speed catergory? Create 2 ranking ladders..arghh

As not all Gps units provide doppler, shouldn't we all submit TPs?, my foretrex doesn't do doppler,

Is it still recomended to supply TPs for Alpha500 as there is still a problem with Doppler in this catergory at times?

If TPs are a problem why not apply the correction factor that the GPS gurus' calculated for them, for a Doppler like result?

How about we supply half TPs and Half Doppler??? just what we need more confusion......

From here: http://gpsteamchallenge.com.au/pages/rules

You are responsible for your own data. You must believe that you actually did a certain speed before you post that number, however you work it out. This website works mostly by the honesty system, and if you aren't honest with your numbers, then you will be found out eventually.

We didn't explicitly state whether you use trackpoints or doppler because there is so much variation in what is considered the most accurate for different devices.  We left this up to the individual user to do their research, and be responsible for putting up the speed that they believe they did, however they decided to work it out.

We,ve had this discussion before lets not go there again. Enough damage was done last time. Its for fun ,remember.

Thanks Ben

What are "you" stating then??

Nah Pit crew need all the help they can get .

But really yer up to the individual. I was posting trackpoints last year and have decided to post doppler this year.

I dont really notice alot of diff really except for peak speed.

Thats not fair vando...you just nailed the fastest mile in aus(in that slow northern place) and about tme yer come through with the goods

Here here Nebs / Kato, its for fun! its the 2 sec that causes the most grief at hi speeds, I'd liked to of claimed that credible 47+ garmin2sec but went with the Dop 46 (over a knot of diff') in 07 pre my GPSTC postings.  

I feel anything that looks out of the ordinary will be scrutinised within teams anyhow.

Thanks Shelby be great to see some of the pit crew up here some time

Hello Pit Crew.

You guys are 'serious' contenders  for the top spot - no question there! Several quasi sponsored team players - inifinite experinece and a great location!

Your 'serious' competitors are using a common standard.

We just want to encourage you guys to do the same - we know you can because you do it on the GPS-SS international site!!!

We just ask why [and don't want some half arsed fluff fuck answer]. Sure you can post track, sure the rules state you do not have to post doppler, and that it is a 'fun competition' but you guys have been known to 'crow' very loudly [remember your sorry comments Craig] when you better the best!

Please - on behalf of the other 'serious teams' let us compare apples with apples and not apples with pit crew!

Cheers

I will take it that my post was the one that you consider a "fluff fuck answer" and I am a little disheartened that is all you make of it.

I believe we,the GTC,have the most reliable Alpha ranking in the world - in Trackpoints.

"compare apples with apples" - Doppler..
a very reasonable request and
it is unlikely to make much of a difference to our end result.

For Doppler results to be so much of an issue I see this heading in the development of the individual ranking ...but that is probably where GTC was always going to end up.

Cheers Shelby - sounds like we are heading in the same direction - re your response - I just didn't understand it [no offence intended].

I'm confident it will always be a team challenge!

Dont mind sailing with you blokes... and thats the feeling this site gives me

We (SRM) and many other teams choose the more conservative method (doppler) simply because it gives us more confidence that the data we are posting is less likely to be inflated. Thats in the spirit of the challenge as clearly outlined by Nebs (above).

If you guys choose to post trackpoints when you have doppler available, thats fine, but as a consequence you are choosing to play a different, easier game to the rest of us.

In the end it doesnt really matter unless your relatively inflated speeds affect the points

So Johnny takes the prize even though he knows he was probably beaten in the real game. And Johnny finds the prize doesnt taste so good.