I think you made the right decision. There would have been nothing safe about Safety Bay today.

At least you bagged a bunch of those elusive 30's

Ratz - I think you made a good call to stay local - from what I heard Safety Bay was out-of-control.

Visited the pond late morning, nice and flat by the bar, no kiters out, ----- but no windsurfers either, (except some mad buggers out in the open water!). I wimped out, too cold, too stormy, and still a bit fatigued from yesterday.

That's a surprise! Do you mean the sand spit or the submerged bar where the speed strip is?

SH#T HOT TOM and sounds like you had a awsome time i hate work so much but the money is good 1 power ball and im there great 2 see another pb 2 days in a row well done again mate  your doing the team proud

FABTASTIC TOM gr8 to see the young gunz pushing the old fartz down the Mandurah Mob rankings

congratulations on the very impressive PBs guys.  great to see WA with some decent sailing conditipns after such a long drought.

With a name like Crasher, I'd thought you'd be an expert on big get offs 

Nice work Crash man

Big Congrats Jedi on the 5x10 . Just wish you could take that clown nose off while your sailing because i start laughing an forget what i am doing.

Impresive crashman, weedbank

Fantastic stuff guys, your 2s is over 81km/hr Crasher, very fast to crash at!!!! glad it was you not me.

HOLY SH#T CHASHER did the air bag go of thats a smoking run glad you are allright and hows the gear you guys are luck little expendables top stuff i bet you wont foget that sesh in a hurry 

Anita, it didn't look as flat at the submerged sand bar, bit hard to tell from the shore, just where the chop started.

Well done Tom and Crash, awesome results

crasher i thought he went so fast yesterday it blew of but this dose not seem 2 be the case now im having flash backs you know the circus is in mandurah at the moment tom lol you guys got the team some awsome points 

I told you I got 5 mm shaved off the nose. That equal 3 knots at least. The mayor of the bank!!!!!!!!. Thought you vapoprised!!!.

Wow nice one boys!

great effort guys , ouch Crasher

Stropp best thing is it happens so quick. Expected carnage but gear pulled through. The maui sails are pretty strong. Just sore arm an leg.

I am in awe. Amazing effort.

You guys must be weary tonight after two days of ballistic weather.

Aren't maui making arms and legs? they got clown noses

Crasher - great going mate - forever the man of the mystery spots!

Big effort too Tom!

Nice one guys. I rocked up at my local at half three and BOM was reading 13-34knts and it looked like it. Wind all over the place with massive tidal surge so it was really bumpy. What sealed the deal was my wettie was dripping wet from yesterday. F#ck i must be getting soft, how embarrising

huge effort tom and crasher..

Respect guys some more great numbers.

Not sure I get your mob's obsession with secrecy though?

The WA speedsailing community is pretty small so it's unlikely any of these 'secret spots' will ever get crowded.

yep what he said!!

It's not necessarily the whole mob's obsession, just the guys that put the effort into finding the spots, it's up to them to decide who gets told.

Awesome stuff, Crasher!  I formally hand over my WA 2sec Bronze medal to you!

Great stuff with back to back PBs, Tomski!

Brilliant Crasher

To the guys (like the one's whinging) who sail the same spots while others miss out on good sessions because they thought spots would be good. It's not easy missing 30 knot forecasts with one run for the day, or driving 2000 km's to checks spots. Get off your asses. Don't take the easy option.  It's not about secret spots. It's about enjoying the spot with guys who got each other pumped up to discover the new spots. They will come out eventually but there has too be some reward for walking runs in pissing rain, shivering. Rolling up to sailing spots without your gear just to check.  If your not happy with your local, go have a look around.

It's much easier to spot 12-15 windsurfing sails, than it is 3-4. If one kiter see people sailing, the place will be packed. It's not the 'SMALL SPEED SAILING COMMUNITY' I'm worried about. It's the 3000 f@#king kiters!!!!!!! Look at Safety Bay, Point walter and woodies. The same guys that complain in their posts every session about crowds and kiters in the way are complaining about this. Come on people. Why not just get out and sail?

looks like the "weed bank" goes! Matty was stoked. Good effort giving it a crack and sussing it out. One day I'll suss it out but in hindsight I think the beaver would have been going off if I stuck around an hour longer for the wind swing. Cant be everywhere at once...

To ALL concerned about secret spots. Firstly Tom Stropp an myself have put in a massive effort an time into this spot, especially Tom. To find out where all the hazards are an we get one day when its on to explore the potential an you get a few bashers. Personally myself I have the privlage to have alot of time off to explore. I have invested alot of time, money! , an sailing time to explore this state from the bottom to the top. There is alot of fantastic spots out there, and yes , there is alot of spots just as good as sandy point,I personally are happy to release spots once i find they are safe after I have had a few sesssions and that it does not invite KITERS.  To me I thrive on getting away exploring a spot, looking at the set up an getting excited, then having a go, be by myself or good friends. Its such a rush an the thrill of getting rewarded makes it so much special. The search will always continue as my love to is to explore. So open your eyes, an if you want wind Whilste it in. I Do not, an have never shunned the Speed sailing community but , I cant just publish a book on every spot, wind direction, tides , hazards, bests months when its works. Thats why roads trips are the go? If you would like to say something to me about this. Please do not hessitate in contacting me.

Regards

Crasher

Congrats on the speed pbs yesterday and today crasher,stropp,tomski,ratz,rod Lake Hawthorn is filling up whos keen

WELL SAID CRASHER the old saying work hard and the rewards will follow  and once again great effort. The speed sailing community need 2 look at the big piture its 4 all 2 benifit long term we need eveloution 2 keep happening 2 keep the sport fresh so we dont get bored and we might catch those dutches one day this is such a great sport that all can enjoy

My discussions with team members is not to keep these spots secret forever from the GTC community! In time all GTC community members will be informed.  A bit of patience in letting the one;s who have done the hard work to enjoy some privelege, privelege always comes with hard work.  Then u will all get your chance one day.  pATIENCE PLEASE!!!!!!

One issue is that when u guyz & galz see and sail these  places you will realise how quickly some of these places will get over-crowded, and spoilt.

A spot that is magic for 3 to share, becomes bizzy with 5 or 6, becomes crowded with 10, unsailable with 30 and kiters.  The safest way initially to avoid these places being ruined is just to keep them secret.  But eventually its important that all community members enjoy, we realise and want this.  However, when we drip feed these spotz into the community, help us to safe-gaurd them from the potential nightmare scenarios that these spots become lost to us like many others thru over-crowding?

I can see your points especially regarding checking out a spot for safety, but it's just that in the GPSTC which I have found to be such an open, supportive, sharing and helpful community, secrecy and exclusivity is a rare sour note. Please don't poison the golden goose. The GPSTC communtiy is a rare gem. We need to nuture it.

That said, it takes rare courage to sail at high speed in unexplored territory where unknown hazards lie beneath the surface. Your PB's are well deserved and our hats are off to you.

Well said el-captano. 44.00 on the dial........YEEEPA.

i think there is a development propsed for that place, marina etc so why not share it now before its gone forever.

Yes we are going to share, will be sooner rather than later, please just be patient, we all just wanted our little fill like pigz at the swill, b4 we fully disclose, but as in the spirit of the GTC of inclusiveness we will share.  What we need to work out is how to get this info out there, in a way that doesnt end up like safety bay and woodmans point, which is now disastrous for the average speedsailor unwilling to play chicken and face aggro.  Be Patient ..... though if you have any suggestions on how we disseminate this info, without alerting every wind sport fanatic & wind sport tourist that visits  WA, I'm all ears??

thats a hard one Hardie, not very black and white

perhaps the WWA facebook page? as an admin i can turf all the kite-lukers hahaha.

That maybe an idea, maybe some sort of facebook page, maybe GTC membership Page?  Good idea Stringer, some more feedback please, on how we keep the spots to be disclosed within the GTC community?  A Facebook page sounds like a gr8 idea what do others think?

With a facebook page, maybe I be the gate-keeper if that possible? Someone would have to instruct an IT imbecile like me on how to set something like that up?

It’s easy to setup, give me the GPS coordinates and i will encrypt it in 512bit both you and i will have to simulataenously enter a 36 character cypher to unencrypt the data for dissemination to our nominated underlings

go to facebook, on the LHS column you should see groups, and create new group, set privacy setting and invite members. Nebbian should know all about 512-bit encryption.

Good to see some constructive dialogue on this thread.  For the record I wasn't whinging or complaining, just asking the question everyone else was too polite to ask

I don't want prime speedsailing spots to be over-run with tea-baggers either, so I'm all for a discrete way of sharing spot info with the local GPSTC crew.

For me GPSTC is all about sharing the stoke, and competing with and against your mates.  Anything that furthers that ethos is a good move.

I have set up Facebook Page Group GTC The Spots, those who want to be invited be-friend me, and as I get permission and agreement I will drip feed spots, but we need to make a pact, that u receive this info as ......... gtg

I am Joseph Presti on Facebook ask 2b my friend

Thanks Hardie, I admire your prompt initiative. Really all you need is a spirit of openness so that people who do know the location feel free to share it privately with other GPS sailors. It doesn't need to be on any open forum anywhere.

Too easy, I'll hide in the park across the road from Mr Boat, when I see him getting into his clapt out Rollscanardly Bongo Van, with that wild look in his eyes and that eat shit grin, I'll know it's time to follow him to the Holyland 

Greats speeds guys, well done and big congrats 

^ Very funny Firie although I bet FNQ's holy land is a lot warmer, a lot less caustic and clearer than their Holy land too.

LMAO Firie, that's gold

Hey clasher i hope the people that want 2 sail rsoles know how 2 chop hop car bodies 

There should be a Rsoles rule....if you rip the back end off your board you bury it nose down, and leave it there. Than you'll have something to hide behind when it hails. Nah ha. 3 sessions it will look like the great wall of china..

Awesome speeds fellas. I'm more interested in hearing about those new mistral boards. How bout a gear review.

As for spot X, if you put in the hard yards you are quite entitled to keep it to yourself as far as I'm concerned.

yeh good stuff firie, it is that grin that takes the cake, nothing quite like the chris lockwood grin 

Gratz on the super session.

How-ever I'm staying clear of the politics going down :-\